At some point in the past I had set the language of my account to German but I can not find language settings any more account.riseup.net/user. Where has it gone? Setting another language for the web-frontend of the mail account worked fine but did not affect the language setting for the rest of my account.
I assume given your other ticket you already figured this out? If not, which aspects of Riseup do you mean by "the rest of your account?"
No, I did not figure it out. I think these things are not related. The page https://account.riseup.net/ is set to German in my case. I assume, that I had changed it from English to German at some point in the past. The question is how I can switch back to English or any other language available. At https://support.riseup.net there is a language button which at least offers English an Spanish. Can't find it on the account page. Anyhow, I would consider system wide language settings as a good idea. And I'm sure that this was provided with the old web frontende. How else could I have changed from English to German?
One more addition. If I set the language at the home page https://riseup.net this affects all subsequent pages like the page for Email, Lists, Security etc. Only exception as much as I can see it are the above mentioned pages. Would have expected that there language settings are changed too or that they I can change the language in my account setting.
I'm not getting the same results you are. Here's what I find:
1. go to riseup.net → defaults to English
2. pick a non-English language
3. navigate around any page on the www.riseup.net subdomain → should display in your language, if supported by translations
4. go to lists.riseup.net → English
5. go to account.riseup.net → English
6. go to support.riseup.net → English
7. go to mail.riseup.net → English
8. make sure that riseup.net tab/window is closed
9. to to riseup.net → back to English
For that matter, AFAIK, only the www, lists, support, and mail have any sort of internationalization support at all (sad, but true). Worse, they're all completely disconnected systems. The information I gave you on the other ticket regarding translations only applies to www. The others have their own systems, which are ultimately supported upstream (Sympa, Helpy, and Roundcube, respectively). In the case of support, those strings related to content we have added (i.e. not a part of the base Helpy itself) need to be translated on their own, and unfortunately we don't have a really good way to do that yet.
i18n is hard, sadly :(
Let me know if I can answer any other questions about this.
1. go to riseup.net → defaults to English
2. pick a non-English language
3. navigate around any page on the www.riseup.net subdomain → should display in your language, if supported by translations
4. go to lists.riseup.net → English
5. go to account.riseup.net → English
6. go to support.riseup.net → English
7. go to mail.riseup.net → English
8. make sure that riseup.net tab/window is closed
9. to to riseup.net → back to English
For that matter, AFAIK, only the www, lists, support, and mail have any sort of internationalization support at all (sad, but true). Worse, they're all completely disconnected systems. The information I gave you on the other ticket regarding translations only applies to www. The others have their own systems, which are ultimately supported upstream (Sympa, Helpy, and Roundcube, respectively). In the case of support, those strings related to content we have added (i.e. not a part of the base Helpy itself) need to be translated on their own, and unfortunately we don't have a really good way to do that yet.
i18n is hard, sadly :(
Let me know if I can answer any other questions about this.
Thanks for the elaborated explanation. But I can't agree 100 percent with you. At least the login pages of mail.riseup.net and account.riseup.net are German in my case. At some point, when account.riseup was called user.riseup.net, I must have changed the system-wide language settings.
When I enter both, mail and account, language is set to German too. Whereas I can change the language settings in the Roundcube mail client, account.riseup.net does not offer this feature (any more?). But since I once was able to change it for all services I suppose it somehow still must be possible. If not, it at least would be great to be able to change the language settings for account.riseup.net. For the other services I have found ways to change them within the clients.
BTW, I do not care if a page is in English, German or Spanish. But down here in Mexico many activists in the remote indigenous areas only speak Spanish (as their second language). And these are the people who need that extra security riseup.net offers. Unfortunately they can't use it due to the language problem. Thus it would be great if all services could be switched to Spanish too. As much as I see it, localization does not work one hundred percent for www.riseup.net and not at all for acconunt.riseup.net. But these are the pages every user sees first. When I can make time I try do contribute to the Spanish localization. Won't be perfect but at least a first step.
When I enter both, mail and account, language is set to German too. Whereas I can change the language settings in the Roundcube mail client, account.riseup.net does not offer this feature (any more?). But since I once was able to change it for all services I suppose it somehow still must be possible. If not, it at least would be great to be able to change the language settings for account.riseup.net. For the other services I have found ways to change them within the clients.
BTW, I do not care if a page is in English, German or Spanish. But down here in Mexico many activists in the remote indigenous areas only speak Spanish (as their second language). And these are the people who need that extra security riseup.net offers. Unfortunately they can't use it due to the language problem. Thus it would be great if all services could be switched to Spanish too. As much as I see it, localization does not work one hundred percent for www.riseup.net and not at all for acconunt.riseup.net. But these are the pages every user sees first. When I can make time I try do contribute to the Spanish localization. Won't be perfect but at least a first step.
Wow, that's quite interesting. Given that your experience goes back quite a ways, perhaps you've twiddled something in the past that's no longer exposed. Let me chat with the old timers and we'll see what we can figure out :)
Regarding localization, I couldn't agree more. I really appreciate your help. Even a 50% improvement is better than nothing!!!!
Regarding localization, I couldn't agree more. I really appreciate your help. Even a 50% improvement is better than nothing!!!!